http://www.freshlygreen.com/2007/07/11/solar-link-to-climate-change-disproved/

Now, let’s take this over to the site that was made for it.

I just came to comment on the Pern movie – Hurrah?

Kate: you’ll hear me in Australia when the movie comes out here (if I can be heard over all the political discussion;)

* I am not bashing the entire state, I have friends there.

Wow… this was a blatant and shameless plug, meant to bring some levity to a comment thread lost in a tangent in hyperspace.

Seriously, the jury’s still out on how much what we do affects everything, from the larger perspective, because humans have been on the planet far shorter than the planet’s been around, and the Industrial Age has been around for even less time.

Yes, there have been some drastic changes. Can we do anything significant now to slow down those changes or stop them? How do we know that the ecosystem’s solution isn’t to just shake us off like fleas?

Both sides need to agree that neither side has all the answers, and meet somewhere in the middle to talk about the obvious. The panicking side and the side with it’s head in the sand will be dragged along by the masses in the middle who eventually get something done… just like always. If not, well, markets aren’t the only mechanisms that can self-correct.

Our climate is changing, whether you want to admit it or not. Our main fuels are ruining the atmosphere, at least partly whether you want to admit it or not. Our main fuels are running out. We need to make a shift to not be so dependent on oil especially as the demand continues to rise and the availability declines. If we can do this while protecting our environment, then why not? What is the aversion to solar power or wind power or alternative fuels?

Yes, yes, big corporations blah blah blah…jobs will disappear…yeah yeah yeah…but someone has to it. If your generation won’t get off their lazy ass and do it, then my generation will. And, knowing my generation, we probably won’t.

We need to make the shift NOW. In ten, twenty, thirty years, the demand for oils and gas are going to skyrocket. It’s going to be impossible to make the shift if we keep putting it off. Yes, scientists are working on. Blah. Oil corporations need to get in on this and we as consumers need to get in on t his. And politicians have to push for it. The government needs to stop throwing away money, invest in fuels, invest in education (that’s going down the toilet at least in my area), and get a monopoly on alternative fuels so that when they do come in demand, we have it.

Ultimately, it does not come down to the environment, rather the future of transportation and sustaining the western life we all so enjoy.

I just got SOOOOO off topic. Sorry.

a.) believe man’s effect is full (or a portion there of) and then actionable to the problem.
or
b.) believe man’s effect is none, you do nothing and continue as you were.

I found the comment interesting that Anne doesn’t view her books much as fantasy, that she tries to stick as much to factual science as possible. And Acacia is interesting sounding…hopefully he brings a lot of world immersion from the former books he wrote.
The double-headed interview shows are great so far, thank you!

Doesn’t it strike any of you as interesting that the same people that were denying global warming have switched statements a little over a decade ago and now just say its a natural cause?
Or that the funding from the majority of this evidence comes big oil/big coal who would have the most to lose financially over this issue?

If by the time people like you are ‘convinced’, however unlikely that is, if it is too late….what then? Will the environmental events accept your reasoning and clarion call for moderation in all things? Just ask yourself if you can be afford to be wrong; because the people who think global warming is man-accelerated do not and the people who deny/excuse involvement do not think they can afford it($) either.

And, come on, we can all trust consensus never to lead to irrationality, right? S.A.R.S, bird-flu, anyone?

It’s one of those issues — like abortion — that people tend to get close-minded and passionate about. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but moderation is a dying concept in a country determined to split itself down the middle. The caller was exactly right: this isn’t a certain or decided issue by any measure.

The problem with bringing an infotainment podcast into the realm of heavy-handed political discussion is evidenced by this comments thread and other listener feedback. Rather than discussing the interviews, which are always excellent, the conversation turns to the pet political topic of the week. The fact that I’m having to point this out to podcasters mystifies me, but the same phenomenon recently occured over on Pseudopod, so who knows.

On a person note, I think Mike R. and Summer are pretty reasonable folks, but Mike Stackpole is really starting to come off as pretentious, to the point that I’m considering unsubbing.

Just to be fair before I responded to you, I went back and relistened, just to be sure that I didn’t miss hear what was being said. I stand by my earlier statement.

Heck Chris even agreed that global warming is going on if you listen, so when you liken his opinion to a flat-earth society that is taking it out of context and is even more insulting.

So what was he doing originally reading starship troopers for, if not for entertainment?

He made a stink about it because he didn’t agree with whatever was being said, in this case the overwhelming evidence for global warming. This is like a flat-earth society member calling in to complain that the references to ‘globe’ instead of ‘earth’ is interfering with his entertainment…since it was political in nature. Damn Round-Earther agenda!

The comment that he doesn’t like entertainment to have any politics is a cowardly excuse if i have ever heard one, considering his full admission that it was a entertainment piece that began his own close involvement(and sensitivity, obviously) in politics.

Wow. Thank you for putting up that interview in particular; it was very much mildly amusing. And let me tell you, if — no, when — the Pern movie comes out, you’ll hear me in Arizona.

And David Anthony Durham’s interview was sweet, too.

=D

Talk about a major turnoff and I was just starting to enjoy Cover to Cover again.