Cover to Cover #280A: Robert Jordan, RIP

Conan ChroniclesDiscussion: The lead topic is discussing the passing of Robert Jordan. For all our arguments and nitpicks about what transpired in the later novels in the series, there is no denying that he could deliver a range of stories that appeal to a wide range of readers.

Michael and Michael discuss, including the recent passings of Madeleine L'Engle and Fred Saberhagen as well.

Who would you nominate as the new demi-gods of SF/F literature? What works of theirs would you present as evidence supporting that nomination?

Submitting Listener comments: If you have any suggestions or comments, please let us know!

Link: Cover to Cover #189: Robert Jordan / Sheri L. McGathy
Promo: Fortress Draconis

Comments

  1. new pantheon must be some people who have showed longterm excellence, at least a few books more under their belt then a dalzzing first novel...and they must be relatively young people(under 60), naming people like George rr martin, vernor vinge and ben bova cannot be conisdered...they are already in the pantheon and have been there longer then most readers of this post have been alive or able to drive a car.

    I think the new pantheon must include Charles Stross and Charles De Lint. De lint has never really been given a lot of credit in the field...yet he seems to have long mastered teh art of the surreal urban fantasy tale. Long before Niel gaiman was ripping off ideas in the sandman comics about myth in modern day...there was de lint telling very personal stories that moved and were in every meaning of the word...fantastic.
    Charles Stross is a 'future of society' writer. It isnt enough to mention words out of wired magazine(or hp lovecraft works) like singularity....its about what that is going to effect the society that has them in its presence.

    I hear alot of noise about china melville, but frankly i am underwhelmed so far and it seems more a imitation of david lynch doing scifi then anything of actual substance or longterm value.

  2. Just FYI, Robert Jordan died at home, so there was no danger of any outside interference. He was scheduled to return to Mayo about a month from his death.

  3. Effing Geek says:

    Thoughts on the new Pantheon.

    I guess we'd have to define who's old. Where do we draw the line? The old pulp masters? The "New Wave" masters? The Cyberpunk Era?

    The big 3 of course (Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein.)
    Tolkien.
    Silverberg.
    McAffrey.
    Tiptree.
    Stross.
    Niven.
    Gibson.
    Butler.
    Shattner (tek war forever!)[sarcasm, sorry]
    Drake.
    Bujold.
    Turtledove.
    Bova.
    Anderson.
    Zelazny.
    Aldis.
    Martin.
    Haldeman.
    Ellison.
    Vance.
    Benford.
    Pohl.
    Resnick.
    Gaiman.
    Adams.
    Robinson.
    Salvatore.
    Bester.
    Farmer.
    de Camp.
    Reynolds.
    Blish.
    Vinge.
    Kress.
    Stephenson.
    Card.
    Kelly.
    Varley.
    Sagan.
    Brin.
    Willis.
    Moorcock.
    Egan.
    Zhan.
    Vonnegut.
    Banks.
    Bear.
    Baxter.
    Stackpole (no, I'm not sucking up.)
    Sterling.
    LeGuin.
    Bradburry.
    Beagle.
    Dick.
    Rowling. (Maybe, lets see what else she can do post Potter)

    and Now, let's push the limits:
    Ronald D. Moore (BSG)
    Joss Whedon (you have to ask?)
    King (Scarry!)
    Koontz (More scarry!)
    Steven Moffat (Writer from DR WHO)

    Hope there is a lot of room in our pantheon because I have hardly scratched the surface.
    Alas I have not made an effort to seperate the old from the new. In most cases I'd be lucky to tell you what decade these ladies and gentlement did their work in. I'd be happy to get to +/- 10 years on my guesses.

  4. Hi guys....

    Charlie up in Canada here. This is a technical note -- this episode is causing my iTunes to lock up when it tries to retrieve it. I have switched it to manually updating and went through all my subscribed 'casts and the rest get retrieved with no problems, but when I get to yours, iTunes freezes and I have to give the 3 fingered salute to kill it. Just wanted to let you know in case there's a glitch somewhere on your end.

    Love the show, I'll keep downloading it manually if I have to. 🙂

    Charlie

  5. Charlie,

    When did your feed download that episode? Earlier in the week there were some issues, but hopefully all of the glitches are resolved now... see the new farpointmedia.net for more details 🙂

    Try unsubscribing to C2C, deleting that episode, and resubscribing... that might fix things for you.

  6. Agent Smith says:

    I can't play or d/l this episode from iTunes or elsewhere - seems to still be glitching? Just a heads up

  7. Okay, try it now... I have a temporary solution in place

  8. I also Cant d/l the last episode through Itunes either. I deleted it, unsubscribed, then resubscribed and it doesnt show up. I hope you get it fixxed soon. I would rather d/l it through Itunes but I will manually do it if I have to. As always I really enjoy the shows keep up the great work!

    Matt

  9. HI
    I wanted to give some names for authors who are great.
    Elizabeth Haydon
    Tamora Pierce
    Lois McMaster Bujold
    Anne McCaffrey
    Susan Cooper
    Charles de Lint
    Lloyd Alexander (who also passed away)
    Melanie Rawn who needs to finish her Exiles series (10 years fans have been waiting)

    I do not think Rowling will make it because she did some huge things wrong in her series by not understanding the genre.

    Authors people should read

    Joanne Bertin Her novel The Last Dragonlord is wonderful and moving
    Stephen Lawhead his Pendragon series is one of the best
    Steven Erikson His Malazan series is a powerhouse
    Melanie Rawn both her series are amazing
    Kristen Britain The Green Rider series